[Song-Yuan Listserv] Academia Sinica text database

Wed Sep 2 10:19:00 EDT 2009

Couldn't access be arranged through the Society's website?  I would
think a password-controlled access would be feasible.  Because of
endless headaches with IEAS around the journal, I would strongly oppose
any arrangement through them.

            HRC

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Like others who have responded, I strongly support Paul's idea and would
be willing to make an annual contribution (apart from the cost of JSYS)
to help support the cost of the subscription.

John

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Folks, I recently communicated with Liu Cheng-yun, and the upshot is
that

the fee to institutions is $2500 per year.  There are no individual

subscriptions, as Peter points out.  I can't see asking Haverford to pay

that much for me, and I'm not sure they'd do it.  But I'd like to
suggest

that we approach Liu Cheng-yun about treating The Society for Song-Yuan

Studies as an institutional subscriber, with the Society collecting

pro-rated access fees from our members.  I can imagine two ways of doing

that:

1] Ac Sin charges the Society $2500/year, which we bundle into the
journal

subscription fee with access to each journal subscriber.  I don't know
how

that would work out at the Berkeley end where the money is collected

though.

2] The Society collects a pro-rated fee from all members interested in

gaining access to the database.  Many members might have access through

their home institutions, so would not need Society access.

I'm sure there are other workable variations.  If the idea seems

worthwhile we need someone to negotiate with Liu Cheng-yun; and then if

that succeeds, we need to devise a way to collect fees, pay Academia

Sinica, and allocate the necessary passwords.  I don't know Prof. Liu,
but

I think a good case can be made in the merits for treating the Society
as

a subscribing institution: it will generate additional if modest revenue

on a fixed cost for Academia Sinica that they would not otherwise get,
and

it will make a valuable resource available to the larger Song-Yuan

community irrespective of home institution.

Does this seem worth pursuing?

Best to all,

Paul

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> Beverly is correct. Academia Sinica operates through institutional

> licenses (not individual subscription). My understanding is that

> institutional subscription is a one-time fee of a few thousand
dollars.

> It will, I think, save libraries a great deal of money while providing

> access to more works than most can afford.<br>

> Inquiries can be directed to the Vice-Director of the Institute of

> History, Prof. Liu Cheng-yun <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"

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> Peter Bol<br>

> <br>

> Beverly Bossler wrote:

> <blockquote cite="mid:4A9BEF92.5000407 at ucdavis.edu" type="cite">Dear

> all,

>   <br>

> My limited experimentation suggests that this may only be available

> through Academia Sinica for those whose institutions have subscribed
to

> provide full rights to all of the database. I can find /Xu zi zhi tong

> jian chang bian /by searching the shu mu on the Hanji dianzi wenxian

> ziliao ku site, but cannot seem to get access to the full text (there

> is a link to click for access to the full text, but when I do so

> nothing happens). If I'm mistaken or doing something wrong, please let

> me know!

>   <br>

> Best, Beverly

>   <br>

>   <br>

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